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Need advice: california exempt employee working 60+ hours: am I owed overtime?

Started by brandon.w_10 · Sep 24, 2025 · 6 replies
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brandon.w_10 OP

I work as a "Marketing Manager" at a mid-size company in Orange County, California. I'm salaried at $72,000/year and classified as exempt from overtime. I've been consistently working 55-65 hours per week for the past year — sometimes more during product launches.

Here's the thing: despite my title, I don't actually manage anyone. I have no direct reports, I don't make hiring or firing decisions, and I don't set strategy. I basically execute marketing campaigns that my director plans. I create social media posts, write email copy, coordinate with vendors, and update the website. My director approves everything before it goes out.

A friend told me I might be misclassified and actually owed overtime. Is that true? We're talking about potentially hundreds of overtime hours over the past year.

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legalnewbie Attorney

Your friend may be right. California has strict requirements for the overtime exemption, and based on what you've described, there are significant red flags that you may be misclassified. Let me break down the analysis:

1. Salary threshold: For 2024, California requires exempt employees to earn at least $66,560/year (which is 2x the state minimum wage for employers with 26+ employees). Your $72,000 salary meets this threshold, so the salary test is satisfied. However, this alone doesn't make you exempt.

2. Duties test: This is where your employer likely fails. Under California Labor Code Section 510 and the applicable IWC Wage Orders for what it's worth, the "executive exemption" requires that you:

  • Customarily and regularly direct the work of two or more employees
  • Have the authority to hire or fire, or have your recommendations on hiring/firing given particular weight
  • Customarily and regularly exercise discretion and independent judgment
  • Spend more than 50% of your work time on exempt duties

Based on your description — no direct reports, no hiring/firing authority, work approved by your director — you likely do not meet the executive exemption. The "administrative exemption" is another possibility, but it requires that your primary duty involve office work directly related to management policies or general business operations, with the exercise of discretion and independent judgment. Executing campaigns planned by someone else doesn't typically qualify.

California uses the stricter "quantitative" approach — you must spend more than 50% of your time on exempt duties. If you're spending most of your day on production work (writing copy, creating content, updating websites), you're likely non-exempt regardless of your title imo.

If you've been misclassified, you may be owed:

  • Unpaid overtime for all hours over 8/day and 40/week (time-and-a-half) and over 12/day (double time)
  • Meal and rest period premiums if you weren't getting proper breaks
  • Waiting time penalties under Labor Code 203
  • Liquidated damages equal to the unpaid wages
  • Attorney's fees

I'd recommend consulting with a California employment attorney. Most offer free consultations for wage claims, and many work on contingency. You can also check out resources at Employment Demand Letters if you want to understand the demand process.

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I work in HR (not for your company, just to be clear) and this is one of the most common misclassification patterns I see. Companies slap a "Manager" title on someone, pay them a salary, and assume that's sufficient for the exemption. It's not — the duties test is what matters, not the title.

One thing I'd add: start keeping a detailed log of your daily activities now. Track what you do each hour for the next few weeks. If this turns into a claim, that contemporaneous record of your actual duties will be very powerful evidence. Note things like "9am-12pm: wrote social media posts per director's brief" versus "2pm-3pm: independently developed marketing strategy." The balance of those activities is what determines your classification.

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brandon.w_10 OP

AttorneyLindaReyes — this is incredibly helpful, thank you. I'm pretty sure I spend at least 80% of my day on what you'd call production work. I almost never make independent decisions about strategy. Even the vendor contracts I manage have to be approved by my director.

HRProfessional_Amy — great advice on the activity log. I'll start that today. I actually have rough records in my project management tool (Asana) that show all my tasks and when I completed them. Would that count as documentation?

I'm nervous about retaliation if I bring this up. Is there any protection for that?

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legalnewbie Attorney

The Asana records could be very useful as evidence of your actual duties. Save copies of everything to your personal device or email — don't rely on having continued access to company systems.

Regarding retaliation: California Labor Code Section 98.6 prohibits employers from retaliating against employees who file wage claims or complaints. If your employer fires, demotes, or takes any adverse action against you for asserting your wage rights, you'd have a separate retaliation claim with additional damages. Additionally, Labor Code Section 1102.5 provides broad whistleblower protections.

That said, retaliation does happen in practice. This is another reason why consulting with an employment attorney before taking action is wise. They can advise you on the best approach — sometimes a demand letter or filing with the Labor Commissioner is preferable to raising it internally first.

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nofilter_needed_5

I was in almost the exact same position three years ago — "Content Marketing Manager" with zero direct reports, working 50-60 hours a week. I filed with the California Labor Commissioner and settled for about 14 months of back overtime plus penalties. It took about 8 months from filing to settlement.

One piece of advice: if you do pursue this, be prepared for the possibility that the working relationship with your employer will end. In my case, I filed after I had already accepted a new job. It made the whole process much less stressful since I didn't have to worry about the day-to-day dynamic.

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Emily_S_3

Wage and hour compliance consultant here. Wanted to share a relevant enforcement update: the California Division of Labor Standards Enforcement (DLSE) just published its FY2025 annual report last week and the numbers are staggering. The DLSE recovered $117.4 million in unpaid wages for California workers in fiscal year 2025, a 23 percent increase over FY2024. Misclassification of exempt employees was the second most common violation category, behind only minimum wage violations.

More specifically relevant to this thread: the DLSE singled out the “marketing manager” and “operations coordinator” titles as two of the most frequently misclassified positions across all industries. They are running a targeted enforcement initiative in the tech and professional services sectors through June 2026 that specifically audits exemption classifications. If your employer has more than 50 employees in California, there is a non-trivial chance they are already on the DLSE’s radar.

On the practical side, the statute of limitations for overtime claims in California is 3 years for statutory violations (Labor Code Section 198) and 4 years if you include an Unfair Competition Law claim under Business and Professions Code Section 17200. At a salary of roughly $75,000 with 20+ hours of overtime weekly, OP could be looking at a recovery in the range of $85,000–$120,000 for a 3-year claim period, including overtime differential, waiting time penalties under Labor Code Section 203, and interest. That is before attorney fees, which are recoverable by the employee under Labor Code Section 1194.

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desperate_times_etc_1

Paralegal at an LA employment firm. For 2026, CA salary threshold is ~68,640. Your 72K clears it but salary alone is insufficient for exemption.

Track these for misclassification claims:

  • Activity log: Two weeks documenting hourly tasks as exempt or non-exempt.
  • Decision authority: Note supervisor approvals needed -- these indicate non-exempt status.
  • Breaks: CA requires 30-min meal breaks before 5th/10th hours, 10-min rests every 4 hours. Missing breaks = 1 hour pay per violation (Labor Code 226.7).

Recover up to 3 years unpaid OT (Labor Code 338), or 4 years with B&P Code 17200. At 15-25 hours OT weekly, back pay over 3-4 years can reach 80K-150K. File with DLSE -- free, no attorney needed, 65% settle before hearing.

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