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Vent: can I Negotiate More? is ruining my life

Started by statute_of_limitations_ed_28 · Oct 30, 2025 · 8 replies
For informational purposes only. This is not legal advice.
LE
statute_of_limitations_ed_28OP

Looking for advice on this situation. Laid Off With 2 Weeks Severance After 8 Years - Can I Negotiate More? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Details: I'm in a situation where I need to understand my legal options. Has anyone dealt with something similar?

TM
erin_c_law_14

I went through something similar. The key is to act quickly — statutes of limitation are shorter than you think. My attorney took it on contingency and we settled for a decent amount.

KM
Sergei_ModModerator

Real talk: good discussion. Tagging this for the resource library.

LE
statute_of_limitations_ed_28OP

Update: Thanks everyone for the guidance. I consulted with an attorney and we're moving forward. The advice here helped me understand what questions to ask and what to expect. Will update when there's a resolution.

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CounselK_6

Former HR director here. A few things most people don't know about severance negotiations:

  • Initial offers are almost always negotiable — most companies budget 2-4x what they initially offer. HR expects pushback.
  • COBRA continuation is expensive leverage — ask the company to continue paying your health insurance for the severance period instead of COBRA. It costs them less than COBRA costs you, so it's an easy "yes."
  • Non-disparagement should be mutual — if they want you to agree not to badmouth them, demand the same protection in writing.
  • References matter more than money sometimes — negotiate a written, pre-approved reference letter as part of the package.

And NEVER sign the first day. You typically have 21 days (or 45 if you're over 40 — OWBPA/ADEA requirement). Use that time.

OY
objection_your_honor_4

Excellent advice above. Adding the legal framework: if you're over 40, the Older Workers Benefit Protection Act (OWBPA) requires specific language in the release for it to be valid. Many companies' standard severance agreements don't comply, which gives you leverage.

Also: review what you're being asked to release. General releases that waive "all claims" may include things you don't want to give up — wage claims, ERISA benefits, workers' comp rights, or whistleblower protections. Some of these can't be waived at all (e.g., FLSA claims without DOL or court approval).

If you have any potential legal claims (discrimination, retaliation, unpaid wages), those claims are your bargaining chips. Don't release them without adequate compensation.

HOA
tacobell_esquire_6

For anyone dealing with a company that's ignoring your complaints: file a BBB complaint AND a complaint with your state's consumer protection agency. Companies often respond to BBB complaints because it affects their rating. It's not a legal action, but it creates pressure.

MJ
marcus.j_14

Laid off after 11 years. Offered 4 weeks; negotiated 26 weeks plus 6 months COBRA. My attorney found:

  • WARN Act (29 U.S.C. 2101): 100+ employees laid off without 60-day notice. Each entitled to 60 days back pay.
  • Age discrimination: 38 of 47 laid off were over 40. ADEA claim supported. OWBPA disclosures not provided.
  • Unvested equity: 180K in RSUs. Negotiated 50% accelerated vesting.

Severance is a negotiation. Attorney cost 3K; ROI was 10x+. Do NOT sign releases without attorney review -- some waivers are unenforceable under EEOC rules.

DA
daveP_6

Sharing the other side of the table since most posts here are from employees. I am an HR director at a mid-size tech company (~800 employees) and we just completed a RIF of 120 people on March 14. Here is what actually drives severance decisions from the employer side:

Our standard formula was 2 weeks per year of service, capped at 26 weeks. But we deviated upward for three categories: (1) employees over 40 because ADEA/OWBPA compliance is expensive if challenged — we offered them an extra 4 weeks, (2) anyone in a protected class who could plausibly allege discriminatory selection — extra 2-6 weeks depending on the strength of the claim, and (3) employees with access to trade secrets or who we needed to keep quiet — significantly enhanced packages with extended non-compete and non-solicitation periods.

The WARN Act issue @marcus.j_14 raised is real. We triggered WARN (29 U.S.C. 2101) because we exceeded 100 employees in a 30-day period. We gave the required 60-day notice. Companies that skip this step face 60 days of back pay per affected employee PLUS attorney fees. I have seen companies pay seven figures for WARN violations. If your employer laid off 100+ without notice, that is a strong claim.

Practical advice: always counter the initial severance offer. Anecdotally, 80% of employees who push back get more. The company has already budgeted for negotiations. The initial offer is almost never the best they can do. And if you are over 40, you have 21 days to consider (45 days if part of a group layoff) plus 7 days to revoke under OWBPA. Use that time.